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So in other words, what you are saying is basically, I must accept anything that's available and lower my standards because I'm short?

And that I should be happy with that?

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Haha. Dude did I ever say that it's your problem? Sorry, but I like what I like.

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So translation: "My dating pool isn't small because I am willing to take whatever that's available, not because I prefer them, but because I don't have a choice due to my height."

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Yes, I completely understand that you people are just trying to be positive. But I like said, there's a difference between being positive and delusional ignorant.

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You should have included r/tall also. There are also real negatives effects of being extremely tall also like 6'6" and above. Especially if you are a woman and as tall as 6'1" more, that could be a serious problem too.

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Really?

Take a look at this one for instance: http://shortkingz.com/topic/how-much-would-you-pay-to-grow-taller-1438#p5465

His exact words "Why would you "need" to be taller?" He's literally discouraging people from being taller (even if there was a safe way to do so). And then he gave all these non-sense laughable reasons of why being tall is bad:

"See, and if these people did grow taller, they'd be more of a target for divorce, rape accusations, alimony, child support and they'd be miserable like many of my taller friends who had options galore when it came to women." 

So you are incorrect to say that people on this forum won't think that way. And this is exactly the kind of post that annoys me.

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And what exactly are you referring to by this 'doom'?

I never said you couldn't go to college because you're short.

I never said you couldn't make money because you're short.

I never said you couldn't get married and start a family because you're short.

I said that short men in general are not seen as sexually desirable like tall men, which is not wrong.

Again, this depends on how short you are.

There is a point where you're just too short to be found sexually attractive by pretty much any woman.

There is a point where you're too short for some women, but still acceptable for other women.

I'm not trying to underestimating your achievement.

But to fair, I don't know these girlfriends/hook-ups you got.

I don't know how many of them. How they look like. What's their heights. What's their motivations. Whether they're truly sexually attracted to you or did you give them anything else at all in return.

I don't need the answers, but you get my point.

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Not exactly. There are professions that require certain height too.

Take this one for an example: https://www.thesegoldwings.com/height-flight-attendant/

So again, I'm sorry to say that it's incorrect to say that NBA is the only thing you can't do because of your height.

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We're not talking about a forum of a product here. We're talking about 'a community for short men'. In other words, short men are isolated from the idea of "normal men".

Sure, maybe not all of you are unhappy, but seeing some of the posts here:

http://shortkingz.com/topic/wemen-actually-turning-away-on-street-1420

http://shortkingz.com/topic/so-youre-mgtow-is-that-really-by-choice-1421

http://shortkingz.com/topic/anyone-feel-cheated-by-genetics-1413

It's safe to conclude that some of these guys are here because they are unhappy with their life.

Anyway, my original point is that it's wrong to say "being short is perfectly ok/good".

Even if you and some other short guys are perfectly happy with their life, that doesn't make it okay to be short.

Maybe they like to be at a disadvantage. Maybe they like to be unattractive. That's not to say that others want to be the same.

Someone might be happy to be desired by a single woman out of millions women despite seen as repulsive by the rest. But others might be not.

I can provide you with all the facts, studies and statistics (just like the ones I posted in this thread and other threads) showing that being short is not okay.

But I don't believe it's necessary, because we all know the truth at this point.

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I don't know what race you are. But first of all, 5'7" in general isn't super short. You aren't in the same boat as guys 5'5" and under.

And it's pretty much black and white that women don't like short men. I'll explain why.

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Here you say they are okay with you being 5'7". Meaning they don't particularly love the fact that you are 5'7" but they tolerate you being 5'7" and that's a big different. They still consider it at least as a kind of a turn-off.

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Secondly, that sounds like a lose to me. Because of your height, your dating pool only consists of women shorter than 5'7" (here you're talking about filtering out probably half of western women population) while a 5'11" man's dating pool consist of pretty much all women.

And in your specific examples, you particularly highlight women 4'11"-5'2". In my opinion that's not attractive female heights to begin with. Personally, I'm more into taller women.

But my preference doesn't matter that much. The point is that if the size of your dating pool has to shrink just because of your height, it's not good.