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Democrats are trying to pass a "Family Act", which basically means if you have a kid the government is going to automatically pay you $3,600 a year per kid until the kid is 18, in addition they are trying to pass all these other things like "Free Pre-Kindergarten" tuition.

One of the things a short guy might have had going for him is if he had a job and he could help provide for a kid, a woman might take that into effect when choosing her mate, now that she knows that the government (taxpayers) are essentially going to help pay for her kids, I assure you she will be even more selective, and you will see alot more single mothers who just want the best genes for their kids and there will be alot more tall good looking guys with multiple kids from different mothers and alot of ugly and short guys will be left to pay for them because basic economics says if a person gets a tax break and a handout, another person is paying for it so that short and ugly guy who is not able to get laid is essentially paying for all these woman to have kids with the guys who's genes they desire more.

Hi All,

I just discovered this forum recently. I am 31 years old, and about 2 to 3 years ago i just discovered that women are not interested in dating short men. This somehow explained a big mistery that had always gone through my mind: the reason why i have always been single and have never had a girlfriend. I have gone through very tough times when we talk about dating. In university, i have taken lots of winds; all guys were dating (even thr short ones but slightly taller than me). Up to that point i could have never imagined that the height was something to blame. I was putting a lot of effort to date but was always unsuccessful. Theresult was quite catastrophic, as i ended up doing my first time with an escort girl. I wish i could have offered myself a better experience. But that day i remember i was hesitating a lot; i was 21. i said to myself at some point it has to happen, and was hoping to get more confidence after that; i did get confidence after that. Moreover i worked with a psychologue; eventually i started seeing some girls, but realised that this was not lasting long; never more than one month. At some point i dated a girl for actually 4 months but as we got really close to each other emotionally, she said to me that she didn't see me as a boyfriend. I multiplied short term dating (below one month) until the age of around 29, when i then started suspecting my height as a possible issue. by searching on the web i then confirmed that this is the main reason why i have never had a girlfriend; i have never had a girl saying to me that she loves me; even some of the girls i was seeing, i notice that they were only confortable meeting me in the house; we never went out in public together, etc. The truth is that this is a killer on the mental strength. I don't know how to handle this; every other attempt ends with a negative outcome. The reason why i was dating some girls at some point is because i had a nice car. Now i have gone back to uni to do another degree and i am confident that in 2 to 3 years after my degree i will be making around $300K per year. I am an intelligent guy and am studying at the best school in the world for what i do. But then it will be strange to have girls around you if you know they are there for money? My question is when you know that without this money girls are not interested in you, how can you handle that, for someone who wants to build a family and have kids?

People in my family, including my mum, have been making fun of me because i have never presented a girl to my parents; i have never had the opportunity to bring a girl home. My mum has been pushing me hard to get into a relationship and to have a kid, but when i tell her that my height happens to be a problem she doesn't believe me. I am only child. My aunties are making fun of me, and often i feel alone; i have no one to discuss this problem with. It's very difficult to be in that situation.

Note that i have verified this assumption many times and it turns out to be true that if you are a man under a certain height it's a NO GO, no matter what other skills you have. Some times i was even so close to finally land a girlfriend; so much close, but despite everything the girl still hesitated so long and ended up not giving me a chance. A lot of girls told me that it is true; a lot of girls have turned me quickly down as well in bars and clubs, saying that i am same height as them and i am not tall enough for them. I always feel like the last one in my group of friends; all have or have had relationships but i am the most mysterious one, whom people have never seen presenting a girl to friends or family. The least we can say is that this is very tough. And it is more frustrating if your parents do not understand you.

I would like to hear from short men who are maybe more than 35 or 40 years old, about their experience? How do things changes when people get older? How do women perceive short men at that age? I heard that being single at 35-40 years old, rich, and no kids make men high value on the market, no matter whether they are short. is this true?

Thank you all in advance for your answers! :)

Almost 5 Years Of ShortGuyCentral. Thanks for being a part of our forum and we hope you have a successful 2019!

Gotta say that I love this place. Hope you all have a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!

I was a member of (heightismhub.freeforums.net).  I supported another member who posted that working out as a means of respect.  He was criticized by many members.  I took his stance and wrote my on post supporting his views with my own personal experiences.  I was kicked out for the forum.  The reason for writing here, is to get feedback on my post.   You can go to the above site or read below.  I would like comments.

I was reading in this site about a member advocating going to the gym to get bigger and stronger.  The reason if you can’t grow up, then grow out.  And he was criticized for this by members of this site, a short man’s site.  I just don’t understand the criticism.  To me it makes sense.  If you get bigger and stronger, you are no longer an easy target.

I wish I had thought of this when I was 12-13 years old.  I didn’t want to hurt anyone, but there was no shortage of people who had any problem in making my life miserable or in wanting to hurt me, based upon my height.  If I had worked out and knew how to defend myself, my entire life would have been different than today.  And society does not like it when a small man has the power to fight back either physically or politically, just read newspapers or blogs as proof.

I will provide my own personal experiences to justify doing exactly what the other member advocated, getting bigger and stronger.

EX 1  I was 12.  My best friend had moved to a new sub-division.  It was about 1 ½ miles away from my parent’s home.  I knew how to get to his home, so I biked the distance.  It took me about 15 minutes, but it was safe and away from traffic.  The new sub-division was being developed, so land was being cleared.  My friend and I went biking through the sub-division.  We were looking at homes under construction, when a boy, walked up to me and wanted to fight me.  I never met this boy in my life.  He was at least 1 year older, maybe 2, and was 2-3 inches taller.  A classic bully, for he didn’t choose someone bigger to fight, but someone smaller, me.  I avoided the conflict, by not taking the challenge, and took some insults in the process.  But I was singled out, due to my size.  My mother was 5’2” and my dad 5’5”, and they should have placed in me in a self-defense class years earlier, for both knew that goons, creeps, thugs and bullies would target me, for they must had experienced this themselves.  (To this day, it angers me that they did not get into a self-defense class, as I have done with my boys)

EX 2  I moved to Houston, for job opportunities.  I soon found out that it was easier to meet girls in C&W bars than regular bars.  On 2 separate occasions in C&W bars, men attempted to trip me.  Both times, I could feel a leg/foot place in front of my right foot as I was walking by.  Fortunately for me, both times, I had stepped over to my left foot so my weight was already on my left leg when they attempted to trip me.  I simply lifted my right foot up over their leg/foot and kept on walking.  But I knew exactly what had happened at the time.  2 different men thought it would be a good laugh to trip the short man and have him fall in front of everyone.  If I came up swinging at them, they could claim that I started the fight.  And they, it just so happened were bigger than me, and after all, I stated the fight, not them.  I did not see the man who did this the first time to me, but I did clearly see the man who did it to me the second time.  He was 6’1” or 6’2” and was the only one within 10 feet of me at the time.   I did not see him extend his leg out, for I was looking at the dance floor, not directly in front of me or at him.

EXC 3.  I have had tall men invade my personal space, intentionally, to either intimidate me or humiliate me in public.  A few times, I thought they were trying to get a response from me, but I knew I was over matched, and I didn’t have the fighting skill set to take them on.  So I moved away from them.

Since I was ostracized when I was young (being bullied), I had plenty of time to work out and take self-defense classes.  (But my parents never did this for me.)  I have watched my sons at their karate classes, and I wish I had known some of their moves when I was their age.  

For those reading my words, if I had to do it over, I would become an expert at kicks, to kick bully balls, break goon knees and to keep away from someone who has a longer reach.  You need strength and knowledge to defend yourself against a larger person.  There is a male karate instructor who is about 5’6” and in his late 30’s or early 40’s, and he is lightning quick.  His advice, you don’t want a fair fight.  Someone who is bigger or stronger says things like that because it plays into their favor.  You use everything to your advantage i.e. deception.  If you are forced to fight, ask a question of your opponent, like what is your name?  Just as the person begins to answer, this is when you throw the first punch or kick.  Their mind will be in gear to talk, not fight.  You will have about 1 second where they cannot begin to respond.  In that time, you kick them in the balls or kick their knee out.  Again, I wish my parents had done this for me, as I am doing for my boys. 

If this sounds harsh, it is, for goons, creeps, thugs and bullies don’t care in the least about you.  They derive pleasure in targeting someone smaller, who they feel they can easily harm.   I am no MMA wane-be.  What I want is to pass along some advice that I wish someone had given me when it would have made a difference in my life.  And for the life of me, I can’t understand why getting bigger or stronger is so abhorrent to members of this site.  I guess I am the only short male here to ever have experienced heightism and being bullied.  Also, didn’t I read at this site where short men seem to attack their own?  Am I the only one who remembers this?  Isn’t this what is happening here?

Just wanted to say that I am proud of you guys, who are shorter, like myself.  Even though some of the world ridicules us and dislikes our existence, we still persevere as always.

(The following is to those that hold faith.)

Remember, this life is a test; whereby God bestows the strongest souls, those who can withstand anything, an Earthly life of pain, which will result in reward from survival and success. 

...And to all brothers, stay strong and never give up! 

As in my 25th year, i've recently been reflecting on my life and what made me to who i am today.
And what should i have been doing differently despite the life events out of my hands?

- Not desperately wanting to fit in

I was never a happy child, and as majority in here i was a victim of the cruel bully'world.
Being bullied never made me strong, it made the quite the opposite. It made do strange things to get attention.
It become very hard for me to make friends which to this day is still an issue, and have been so throughout my entire life.

Instead of being the wierdo, the clown and the guy who would always dare to do dangerous stuff, I should have stayed more calm and not being busy getting bad attention.

- Not joining a bad crew

As i grew older, i was poor on friends, i was always the substitute amoungst a group, which basically means that I was the 2nd or 3rd pick when it came to hanging out as we called it.

When i reached the age of 17 i had the opportunity to befriend myself with someone lesser people, which i did.
As in my previous many years i have been bullied, people not wanting to befriend me, and being disrespected, it was nice.
 

I joined a crew of tough guys. And my daily routine was to hang out during the night, stealing what ever i could get my hands on. Being the hard guys at any party with a bad attitude. And in general being a propper badboy.
While i enjoyed some parts of the life. It was very hard getting out off, and i still see the results to this day. I attract other people who are or have been like me, despite gender.
I hate it and i think that the women that have been like me are gross, and im having a hard time accepting other peoples past.

- Being insecure

I touched this topic in one of previous posts http://shortkingz.com/topic/me-vs-society-my-darkside-warning-wall-of-text-1067

But to recap the long lifestory, I've not had succes with women previously in my life.
And it ripped me to pieces with the consequence that i became very insecure when the topic was picking up women and keeping a relationship. Altho it took me 5-6 years to reach the level of insecurity that i have today.
In other words i became the female, not really having the balls to take initative when i started liking a girl.
If i could just gather more confidence without hesitating.
This is a recent problem of mine that i wish i could change.

- Not being busy with dating

This is pretty related to what is above. But i spend my entire start - mid 20's looking for girls to hook up with. The first 3 years was unsuccesful and it was the hardest time of my life, changed to something unrecognisable.
If i just havnt been so desperate for female attention i think my 20's would have been very very different and not changing me into something that i do not want to be today.
It have the consequence that i judge women on their past; How their lifestyle have been in their youths, how many they have slept with, what kind of guys they are attracted to and any opinions that they hold differently from what i do.
And in general i hold grudge.

While there are much much more to be told and changed this is probably the essential things in a few poorly described words.
What would you change?