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Again... just mentioned I was playing devil's advocate with my two points.
We are on the same page with the attraction point. Some women just aren't attracted to shorter guys. Period. Nothing you can do about it. Same way I'm sure some shorter guys prefer women their own height.
As for the confidence point... it's true. I don't see how you can 'blame shift' who you're attracted to nor how you've been conditioned.
And on a third point I think you're right - that there are women out there that are only interested in some sort of social status of the 'right' looks/height and income. But why would you want to date a woman like that anyway!?
I was just putting in my two cents... not wanting to get into a heated discussion. I've dated shorter, taller, heavier and skinnier guys all through my life and am currently dating someone 4 inches shorter than me.
Have a good one!
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Thought I'd throw in a woman's perspective. To play devil's advocate - everyone had a preference for what they're attracted to - sometimes you just can't help it.
But I'd have to say, in my opinion, it's usually their own self confidence. Women are trained to want to feel smaller, cuter, cuddled, taken care of etc...(despite all the feminist, you-go-girl stuff) so that usually means someone taller and heavier than they are.
A woman really has to have her own confidence to date someone shorter or skinnier than her. She has to be able to really not care what anyone else is thinking and have her own confidence in herself and her partner.
How easy is that for anyone?
First, welcome to the forum. It is nice to have a woman's perspective here.
On that note, your response is the typical blame shifting response I'd expect to hear from a lot of women regarding this issue. And there's that dreaded "C" word and the "sometimes you can't just help it". There was an article on this site which calls it the "damsel in distress" response. If women are truly independent and strong, then one wouldn't "need" to break from any societal "training". Behaviorisim has largely been discredited in explaining people's actions. You are the captain of your own ship.
There is no "confidence" required. If you are attracted to a short guy, then date him. If you aren't attracted to him, then don't. Anything less than this means that you're playing puppet and are not as independent as you think you are because you care about other people's opinions. It is a great example of the red pillers who claim that women are more concerned about a man's social status (height, money, job) than anything else and that anything less than the top 20% won't do.
Thought I'd throw in a woman's perspective. To play devil's advocate - everyone had a preference for what they're attracted to - sometimes you just can't help it.
But I'd have to say, in my opinion, it's usually their own self confidence. Women are trained to want to feel smaller, cuter, cuddled, taken care of etc...(despite all the feminist, you-go-girl stuff) so that usually means someone taller and heavier than they are.
A woman really has to have her own confidence to date someone shorter or skinnier than her. She has to be able to really not care what anyone else is thinking and have her own confidence in herself and her partner.
How easy is that for anyone?
Morning!
Looking for a bit of (silly) advice. I just started dating a guy 4 inches shorter than me and I haven't quite mastered the hugging part. I just don't want to make him feel awkward. Should my arms go over the shoulders or try to get under his arms? Usually guys I've dated are my height or taller and my arms end up around my partner's waist...
I feel silly asking - but too awkward at this early stage to ask him directly.
So.... what's the general preference?